The Hyves Hype!

It really sounds strange, but mysteriously it just works…

At the moment, it´s possible to check if a domain got penalized for selling links (or lost pagerank due any other kind of malicious activity).
The only thing you gotta do is put “hyves” as a subdomain in front of the domain to be checked.

=> hyves.domain.com

It´s important that hyves is no existing subdomain of that peticular domain, otherwise it won´t work!

You will now get one of three different results for the pagerank of this non-existent subdomain -> PR7, PR4 and PR0.

PR7 means that the domain is perfectly fine
PR4 means that the domain got penalized by google
PR0 means that the domain got banned in Google

It´s really totally weird, but all the domains I checked had the right result! And all of my friends had a 100% accurate results too! I seriously have no idea, why this works, but apparently it does…

Check for example:

-> hyves.oswd.org (PR 4 – Clearly selling links under “Supporters”, and lost Pagerank lately)

-> hyves.tomshardware.com (PR 4 – Clearly selling links under “Partners”, and lost Pagerank lately)

-> hyves.google.com (PR 7 – Clearly not selling links :-) …)

It really works with every domain I know that lost pagerank due to link-selling over here in germany… so weird!!

So check it fast, cause I think that this thing, for whatever reason it works, won´t work much longer, now that´s it´s public :-)

Thanks to Bastian, Torsten and Mario!

UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore… :-)

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Comments

  1. 1
    bob rains
    20. Januar 2009 @ 17:53
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    Has worked for every URL I’ve checked.


  2. 2
    bob rains
    20. Januar 2009 @ 17:54
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    WTF?


  3. 3
    Markus
    20. Januar 2009 @ 17:59
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    Hey, es gibt noch einen weiteren Fall. Bei http://www.hyves.basic-thinking.de wird mir ein PR von 5 angezeigt.


  4. 4
    CBS
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:02
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    In my case hyves.cbschmidt.de shows the same PageRank like http://www.cbschmidt.de, 3 out of 10. Seems, if it does not work for ever domain?!


  5. 5
    mediadonis
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:05
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    hyves.cbschmidt.de ist bei mir PR4
    refresh nochmal – das hilft :-)


  6. 6
    SEOdiot
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:12
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    Wow! Ich bin beeindruckt. Scheint echt zu gehen. Nur schade, dass das jetzt so publik wird, dass Google es bestimmt bald abstellen wird und wir dann wieder im Dunkeln tappen… :o (


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    Tommy
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:13
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    Alle Domains sind in Ordnung…
    wie zum Teufel kommst du zu so einer genialen Info? :D


  8. 8
    mj
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:21
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    Ich habs heute morgen schon in nem Blog gelesen und kann es eigentlich noch immer nicht glauben das es so einfach gehen sollte abgestrafte Seiten zu “entdecken”.
    Es scheint mir ein wenig zu einfach für die sonst so geheimen Praktiken Googles.


  9. 9
    Christof
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:24
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    schade, bei uns ist standardmässig ein redirect auf die Home: ich hoffe bei umstellung funktioniert der tipp noch. Danke dafür!


  10. 10
    Christof
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:25
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    schade, bei uns ist standardmässig ein redirect auf die Home: MyVideo ich hoffe bei umstellung funktioniert der tipp noch. Danke dafür!


  11. 11
    SEOdiot
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:25
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    Ich vergaß zu erwähnen: tausend Dank für diese Info “just in time” – am Wochenende ist einer meiner Kunden für alle Begriffe aus den Top10 in die Regionen 40-60 gefallen und war natürlich entsprechend thrilled, ob das jetzt eine Abstrafung für ein paar wenige gekaufte Links ist. Dank diesem Trick konnte ich ihm jetzt aber grade die letzte Bestätigung dessen geben, was ich schon zwei Tage lang gedacht habe: surely just a Google hickup… Also nochmal: danke, dass ich heute beruhigt in den Feierabend gehen kann… ;o)


  12. 12
    Uwe
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:26
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    Verkaufe PR 7 Backlinks nur 50 € pro Monat :-)


  13. 13
    Skitzzo
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:27
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    I found at least one penalized domain that returned a 7 but for the most part, it worked correctly. Quite strange.


  14. 14
    paul savage
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:29
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    Also confirmed this with some peanalised domains I’ve worked with.

    Danke Marcus !


  15. 15
    Dixon Jones
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:35
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    =>-> hyves.google.com: PR 7 – Clearly not selling links

    But they DO! :)

    I can’t read the German comments (I guess I should translate!) but if that’s true, it’s quite an interesting find. I have found at least one high PR site that sells links that isn’t penalized though. But maybe that just means they didn’t get caught yet, or maybe they were too high to get cougt in the trap.

    That IS a weird thing to find. Cheers.


  16. 16
    Nick Wilsdon
    20. Januar 2009 @ 18:39
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    Very interesting find Marcus, thanks for sharing.


  17. 17
    MarioB
    20. Januar 2009 @ 19:25
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    Hey Marcus,
    Super – DANKE! Evtl. ereinnerst Du Dich an unser Gespräch in DUS und meinem speziellen Fall? OK = PR7 = fine ;) Dafür gibts am Samstag nen Drink …. he he


  18. 18
    Stephen
    20. Januar 2009 @ 19:37
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    Feck, nice one Marcus! How TF did you find that out?


  19. 19
    matt
    20. Januar 2009 @ 20:16
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    So lets just say my site is showing a 4, meaning I’ve been penalized..What exactly does that mean? I have noticed quite the PR drop but my traffic is as strong as it’s ever been so I haven’t given it much thought. Is there something to actually be concerned about? Or does it just mean that maybe my outgoing links are de-valued?


  20. 20
    Steve Johnston
    20. Januar 2009 @ 20:37
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    The PageRank reduction for link selling is only to the presented PageRank not to the actual PageRank. This is supposed to depress the price of links on the site because of the perceived lower impact they will have. It means your site’s performance does not actually change.


  21. 21
    Dan W.
    20. Januar 2009 @ 21:59
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    Maybe I am missing something, but what do you do exactly to check a “hyves” domain? Is there a website that I can go to, where I enter that domain, to see what the result is?


  22. 22
    Robzilla
    20. Januar 2009 @ 22:05
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    Just so you know, Hyves is a social networking site, based and extremely popular in The Netherlands. Hyves.net and Hyves.nl both have a PR7 – coincidence? Could be, but I can’t imagine why a “hyves” subdomain would display this kind of behavior in the PR bar.


  23. 23
    naden
    20. Januar 2009 @ 22:14
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    I build up a little tool to check if you are infected ;)

    http://www.naden.de/hyves-checker/


  24. 24
    nooor
    20. Januar 2009 @ 22:42
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    great topics but my site
    http://nooor.info/dir
    was page rank 2 and lost the page rank without selling any links
    and i don’t know waht’s the reason


  25. 25
    underworld
    20. Januar 2009 @ 23:08
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    Where did you even find this out? lol
    theres got to be some other indicators if there is this?

    h y v e s

    whats it stand for I wonder?


  26. 26
    Googlehagel
    21. Januar 2009 @ 00:13
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    Quite interesting phenomenon, really! Only makes me wonder where that info leaked and how trustworthy the source is.

    Anyways, glad none of my projects seem to have been penalized!

    Cheers


  27. 27
    Brause
    21. Januar 2009 @ 00:44
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    Yeah, that’ll last for about a month or two; so why even waste your time


  28. 28
    dusoft
    21. Januar 2009 @ 01:52
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    doesn’t work for .sk domains, so theory is maybe valid only for international TLDs, not the country ones.


  29. 29
    tybi
    21. Januar 2009 @ 02:25
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    dusoft, it worked for sk domains as well, it just stopped working an hour before. But the link command still shows 26000 backlinks for any domain.


  30. 30
    Zaldy Dalisay
    21. Januar 2009 @ 03:05
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    It’s not working anymore…


  31. 31
    SEOdispell
    21. Januar 2009 @ 03:24
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    This is bull-crap. Absolute non-sense. so youtube has been selling links…


  32. 32
    kaosty
    21. Januar 2009 @ 05:29
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    nah its old news.. pr7 doesnt mean u have a real pr7.. its a glue to duntfuckingknow domain.. crawler eats it but pages from this domain is out of serp. its meanless.


  33. 33
    Debi
    21. Januar 2009 @ 07:29
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    It doesn’t seem to work anymore. My firefox tells me that it can’t find any (or nearly any) domain names that start with hyves. And using naden’s tool, I get 0 for all domains including google.


  34. 34
    Unknown
    21. Januar 2009 @ 10:30
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    Viral marketing successful, congrats ;)


  35. 35
    Unknow II
    21. Januar 2009 @ 15:19
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    Das ist wirklich virales Marketing in Reinform.
    Dafür auch meine Glückwünsche ;)


  36. 36
    Arnie | Link Building
    21. Januar 2009 @ 16:52
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    Looks like that like tool has been “fixed” by Google. At least it does not work for me. Too late to the party!


  37. 37
    i-trepreneur.com
    21. Januar 2009 @ 17:35
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    yeap, no longer works.. I am a sad panda


  38. 38
    Jan Alvin
    21. Januar 2009 @ 17:48
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    Maybe G already found out about this post, and decided to take it out.


  39. 39
    jake
    21. Januar 2009 @ 18:31
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    doesn’t work at all…every page I’ve check gives back PR 0


  40. 40
    mediadonis
    21. Januar 2009 @ 18:33
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    Jesus – People, read the post:

    “UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore…”

    Google fixed that loophole already!


  41. 41
    niemieckacipka
    21. Januar 2009 @ 19:52
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    hi
    so where did you ind that info?


  42. 42
    mediadonis
    21. Januar 2009 @ 19:56
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    Dunno where it really got published first, but I got it from the three blogs I thanked at the end of the post.
    I guess it was first seen in germany in this blogpost on the popular german SEO forums Abakus:
    http://www.abakus-internet-marketing.de/foren/viewtopic/t-67388.html


  43. 43
    Edgar Granados
    21. Januar 2009 @ 20:18
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    works with dominions with 3 characters or less. More info in http://edgargranados.es/hyves-como-saber-si-estas-penalizado-por-google-pagerank/21/ (spanish)


  44. 44
    John Lessnau
    22. Januar 2009 @ 00:43
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    And I thought Google banned itself http://www.hyves.google.com/ :)


  45. 45
    Lhincy
    22. Januar 2009 @ 01:58
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    Hello,

    So bad, its too fast, have not seen the result… Wish you did some screenshots…


  46. 46
    Bill Treloar
    22. Januar 2009 @ 02:50
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    Too bad — they’ve already fixed this so it doesn’t work anymore. Darn!


  47. 47
    Seo Services India
    22. Januar 2009 @ 07:56
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    Well.. It didn’t worked with me. I kept hyves as subdomain in front of my domain. Its not showing any result.:(
    Is there any way I can check that??


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    mediadonis
    22. Januar 2009 @ 09:43
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    @Lhincy: There are two screenshots over at SERoundTable ->
    http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/019249.html


  49. 49
    TraiaN
    3. Februar 2009 @ 20:40
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    http://hyves.yahoo.com/ – returns a 0 page rank. So, Yahoo! have been banned? Don’t think so


  50. 50
    mediadonis
    4. Februar 2009 @ 08:48
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    JESUS
    Just read the Update posted about a week (!!!) ago!

    “UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore…”

    It worked only 12 hours overall! You´re only about a week late!


  51. 51
    Mark
    10. Februar 2009 @ 21:38
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    Yeah, it doesn’t work. Too bad. There was no sure-fire way to check these sorts of things. Probably not a hoax, but a Google experiment. Alpha not Beta like all their released products that are always in development.

    It was a dream while it lasted.


  52. 52
    adi
    7. April 2009 @ 12:13
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    it doesn’t work


  53. 53
    mediadonis
    7. April 2009 @ 13:11
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    Well, if you´d bother to read the update, I wrote about 2 month (!!) ago, you´d know, it doesn´t work any more:

    “UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore… :-)


  54. 54
    Chris
    18. April 2009 @ 18:02
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    also der Bericht ist ja sehr interessant und ich habe das mal gleich ausprobiert mit hyves.domain.de und bin leider auf keine Ergenisse gestoßen


  55. 55
    Chris
    18. April 2009 @ 18:04
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    I try it to and it doesn´t work. whats happend?


  56. 56
    mediadonis
    18. April 2009 @ 18:10
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    Und auch für Dich Spätzünder zum mittlerweile vierten Mal -> LIES DAS UPDATE, welches ich vor über 3 Monaten (!!!) hinzugefügt habe:

    UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore… :-)

    Die ganze Sache hat lediglich ein paar Stunden am 20.Januar funktioniert!


  57. 57
    etcwd
    24. April 2010 @ 22:45
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    hello. i tried your example buy it doesnt work for me. why?


  58. 58
    mediadonis
    25. April 2010 @ 09:21
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    Because you didn´t read the Update at the end of the post…


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