The Hyves Hype!

Posted by mediadonis on Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 17:42

It really sounds strange, but mysteriously it just works…

At the moment, it´s possible to check if a domain got penalized for selling links (or lost pagerank due any other kind of malicious activity).
The only thing you gotta do is put “hyves” as a subdomain in front of the domain to be checked.

=> hyves.domain.com

It´s important that hyves is no existing subdomain of that peticular domain, otherwise it won´t work!

You will now get one of three different results for the pagerank of this non-existent subdomain -> PR7, PR4 and PR0.

PR7 means that the domain is perfectly fine
PR4 means that the domain got penalized by google
PR0 means that the domain got banned in Google

It´s really totally weird, but all the domains I checked had the right result! And all of my friends had a 100% accurate results too! I seriously have no idea, why this works, but apparently it does…

Check for example:

-> hyves.oswd.org (PR 4 - Clearly selling links under “Supporters”, and lost Pagerank lately)

-> hyves.tomshardware.com (PR 4 - Clearly selling links under “Partners”, and lost Pagerank lately)

-> hyves.google.com (PR 7 - Clearly not selling links :-) …)

It really works with every domain I know that lost pagerank due to link-selling over here in germany… so weird!!

So check it fast, cause I think that this thing, for whatever reason it works, won´t work much longer, now that´s it´s public :-)

Thanks to Bastian, Torsten and Mario!

UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore… :-)

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79 Kommentare

Kommentar von bob rains

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 17:53

Has worked for every URL I’ve checked.

Kommentar von bob rains

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 17:54

WTF?

Kommentar von Markus

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 17:59

Hey, es gibt noch einen weiteren Fall. Bei http://www.hyves.basic-thinking.de wird mir ein PR von 5 angezeigt.

Kommentar von CBS

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:02

In my case hyves.cbschmidt.de shows the same PageRank like http://www.cbschmidt.de, 3 out of 10. Seems, if it does not work for ever domain?!

Kommentar von mediadonis

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:05

hyves.cbschmidt.de ist bei mir PR4
refresh nochmal - das hilft :-)

Kommentar von SEOdiot

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:12

Wow! Ich bin beeindruckt. Scheint echt zu gehen. Nur schade, dass das jetzt so publik wird, dass Google es bestimmt bald abstellen wird und wir dann wieder im Dunkeln tappen… :o(

Kommentar von Tommy

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:13

Alle Domains sind in Ordnung…
wie zum Teufel kommst du zu so einer genialen Info? :D

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Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:21

Ich habs heute morgen schon in nem Blog gelesen und kann es eigentlich noch immer nicht glauben das es so einfach gehen sollte abgestrafte Seiten zu “entdecken”.
Es scheint mir ein wenig zu einfach für die sonst so geheimen Praktiken Googles.

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Kommentar von Christof

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:24

schade, bei uns ist standardmässig ein redirect auf die Home: ich hoffe bei umstellung funktioniert der tipp noch. Danke dafür!

Kommentar von Christof

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:25

schade, bei uns ist standardmässig ein redirect auf die Home: MyVideo ich hoffe bei umstellung funktioniert der tipp noch. Danke dafür!

Kommentar von SEOdiot

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:25

Ich vergaß zu erwähnen: tausend Dank für diese Info “just in time” - am Wochenende ist einer meiner Kunden für alle Begriffe aus den Top10 in die Regionen 40-60 gefallen und war natürlich entsprechend thrilled, ob das jetzt eine Abstrafung für ein paar wenige gekaufte Links ist. Dank diesem Trick konnte ich ihm jetzt aber grade die letzte Bestätigung dessen geben, was ich schon zwei Tage lang gedacht habe: surely just a Google hickup… Also nochmal: danke, dass ich heute beruhigt in den Feierabend gehen kann… ;o)

Kommentar von Uwe

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:26

Verkaufe PR 7 Backlinks nur 50 € pro Monat :-)

Kommentar von Skitzzo

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:27

I found at least one penalized domain that returned a 7 but for the most part, it worked correctly. Quite strange.

Kommentar von paul savage

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:29

Also confirmed this with some peanalised domains I’ve worked with.

Danke Marcus !

Kommentar von Dixon Jones

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:35

=>-> hyves.google.com: PR 7 - Clearly not selling links

But they DO! :)

I can’t read the German comments (I guess I should translate!) but if that’s true, it’s quite an interesting find. I have found at least one high PR site that sells links that isn’t penalized though. But maybe that just means they didn’t get caught yet, or maybe they were too high to get cougt in the trap.

That IS a weird thing to find. Cheers.

Kommentar von Nick Wilsdon

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 18:39

Very interesting find Marcus, thanks for sharing.

Kommentar von MarioB

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 19:25

Hey Marcus,
Super - DANKE! Evtl. ereinnerst Du Dich an unser Gespräch in DUS und meinem speziellen Fall? OK = PR7 = fine ;) Dafür gibts am Samstag nen Drink …. he he

Kommentar von Stephen

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 19:37

Feck, nice one Marcus! How TF did you find that out?

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Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 19:50

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Kommentar von matt

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 20:16

So lets just say my site is showing a 4, meaning I’ve been penalized..What exactly does that mean? I have noticed quite the PR drop but my traffic is as strong as it’s ever been so I haven’t given it much thought. Is there something to actually be concerned about? Or does it just mean that maybe my outgoing links are de-valued?

Kommentar von Steve Johnston

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 20:37

The PageRank reduction for link selling is only to the presented PageRank not to the actual PageRank. This is supposed to depress the price of links on the site because of the perceived lower impact they will have. It means your site’s performance does not actually change.

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Kommentar von Dan W.

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 21:59

Maybe I am missing something, but what do you do exactly to check a “hyves” domain? Is there a website that I can go to, where I enter that domain, to see what the result is?

Kommentar von Robzilla

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 22:05

Just so you know, Hyves is a social networking site, based and extremely popular in The Netherlands. Hyves.net and Hyves.nl both have a PR7 - coincidence? Could be, but I can’t imagine why a “hyves” subdomain would display this kind of behavior in the PR bar.

Kommentar von naden

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 22:14

I build up a little tool to check if you are infected ;)

http://www.naden.de/hyves-checker/

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Kommentar von nooor

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 22:42

great topics but my site
http://nooor.info/dir
was page rank 2 and lost the page rank without selling any links
and i don’t know waht’s the reason

Kommentar von underworld

Made Dienstag, 20 of Januar , 2009 at 23:08

Where did you even find this out? lol
theres got to be some other indicators if there is this?

h y v e s

whats it stand for I wonder?

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Kommentar von Googlehagel

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 00:13

Quite interesting phenomenon, really! Only makes me wonder where that info leaked and how trustworthy the source is.

Anyways, glad none of my projects seem to have been penalized!

Cheers

Kommentar von Brause

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 00:44

Yeah, that’ll last for about a month or two; so why even waste your time

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Kommentar von dusoft

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 01:52

doesn’t work for .sk domains, so theory is maybe valid only for international TLDs, not the country ones.

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Kommentar von tybi

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 02:25

dusoft, it worked for sk domains as well, it just stopped working an hour before. But the link command still shows 26000 backlinks for any domain.

Kommentar von Zaldy Dalisay

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 03:05

It’s not working anymore…

Kommentar von SEOdispell

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 03:24

This is bull-crap. Absolute non-sense. so youtube has been selling links…

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Kommentar von kaosty

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 05:29

nah its old news.. pr7 doesnt mean u have a real pr7.. its a glue to duntfuckingknow domain.. crawler eats it but pages from this domain is out of serp. its meanless.

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Kommentar von Debi

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 07:29

It doesn’t seem to work anymore. My firefox tells me that it can’t find any (or nearly any) domain names that start with hyves. And using naden’s tool, I get 0 for all domains including google.

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Kommentar von Unknown

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 10:30

Viral marketing successful, congrats ;)

Kommentar von Unknow II

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 15:19

Das ist wirklich virales Marketing in Reinform.
Dafür auch meine Glückwünsche ;)

Kommentar von Arnie | Link Building

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 16:52

Looks like that like tool has been “fixed” by Google. At least it does not work for me. Too late to the party!

Kommentar von i-trepreneur.com

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 17:35

yeap, no longer works.. I am a sad panda

Kommentar von Jan Alvin

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 17:48

Maybe G already found out about this post, and decided to take it out.

Kommentar von jake

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 18:31

doesn’t work at all…every page I’ve check gives back PR 0

Kommentar von mediadonis

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 18:33

Jesus - People, read the post:

“UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore…”

Google fixed that loophole already!

Kommentar von niemieckacipka

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 19:52

hi
so where did you ind that info?

Kommentar von mediadonis

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 19:56

Dunno where it really got published first, but I got it from the three blogs I thanked at the end of the post.
I guess it was first seen in germany in this blogpost on the popular german SEO forums Abakus:
http://www.abakus-internet-marketing.de/foren/viewtopic/t-67388.html

Kommentar von Edgar Granados

Made Mittwoch, 21 of Januar , 2009 at 20:18

works with dominions with 3 characters or less. More info in http://edgargranados.es/hyves-como-saber-si-estas-penalizado-por-google-pagerank/21/ (spanish)

Kommentar von John Lessnau

Made Donnerstag, 22 of Januar , 2009 at 00:43

And I thought Google banned itself http://www.hyves.google.com/ :)

Kommentar von Lhincy

Made Donnerstag, 22 of Januar , 2009 at 01:58

Hello,

So bad, its too fast, have not seen the result… Wish you did some screenshots…

Kommentar von Bill Treloar

Made Donnerstag, 22 of Januar , 2009 at 02:50

Too bad — they’ve already fixed this so it doesn’t work anymore. Darn!

Kommentar von Seo Services India

Made Donnerstag, 22 of Januar , 2009 at 07:56

Well.. It didn’t worked with me. I kept hyves as subdomain in front of my domain. Its not showing any result.:(
Is there any way I can check that??

Kommentar von mediadonis

Made Donnerstag, 22 of Januar , 2009 at 09:43

@Lhincy: There are two screenshots over at SERoundTable ->
http://www.seroundtable.com/archives/019249.html

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Kommentar von TraiaN

Made Dienstag, 3 of Februar , 2009 at 20:40

http://hyves.yahoo.com/ - returns a 0 page rank. So, Yahoo! have been banned? Don’t think so

Kommentar von mediadonis

Made Mittwoch, 4 of Februar , 2009 at 08:48

JESUS
Just read the Update posted about a week (!!!) ago!

“UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore…”

It worked only 12 hours overall! You´re only about a week late!

Kommentar von Mark

Made Dienstag, 10 of Februar , 2009 at 21:38

Yeah, it doesn’t work. Too bad. There was no sure-fire way to check these sorts of things. Probably not a hoax, but a Google experiment. Alpha not Beta like all their released products that are always in development.

It was a dream while it lasted.

Kommentar von adi

Made Dienstag, 7 of April , 2009 at 12:13

it doesn’t work

Kommentar von mediadonis

Made Dienstag, 7 of April , 2009 at 13:11

Well, if you´d bother to read the update, I wrote about 2 month (!!) ago, you´d know, it doesn´t work any more:

“UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore… :-)”

Kommentar von Chris

Made Samstag, 18 of April , 2009 at 18:02

also der Bericht ist ja sehr interessant und ich habe das mal gleich ausprobiert mit hyves.domain.de und bin leider auf keine Ergenisse gestoßen

Kommentar von Chris

Made Samstag, 18 of April , 2009 at 18:04

I try it to and it doesn´t work. whats happend?

Kommentar von mediadonis

Made Samstag, 18 of April , 2009 at 18:10

Und auch für Dich Spätzünder zum mittlerweile vierten Mal -> LIES DAS UPDATE, welches ich vor über 3 Monaten (!!!) hinzugefügt habe:

UPDATE: Apparently it´s not working anymore! All sites are returning a PR0 at the moment. Pretty strange, right? I mean -> if it was bullshit or some kind of hoax, why was Google so incredibly fast to make it not work anymore… :-)

Die ganze Sache hat lediglich ein paar Stunden am 20.Januar funktioniert!

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